On 9 February 2010 – Malaysian authorities said Wednesday that officials caned four Muslim men and, for the first time, three Muslim women this month after being found guilty in an Islamic Court of having sex out of wedlock.
If the Lady or Man a Malay-Muslim or other Muslim and the other partner a Lady or Man a non-Malay or non-Muslim after being found guilty of having Sex out of wedlock: What would be the Punishment and which Court of law to be introduce?
WASHINGTON: Amnesty International on Wednesday urged Malaysia to end a caning “epidemic,” saying that authorities have meted out the punishment to thousands of men in addition to the high-profile case of three women.
Malaysian authorities said Wednesday they had caned three women for having extramarital sex in violation of Islamic law, a first in the Muslim-majority country.
But Amnesty International said the case was the “just the tip of the iceberg” and that Malaysia often caned men for routine offences.
Citing Malaysian authorities, the London-based human rights group said authorities had caned more than 35,000 people — mostly non-Malaysians — for immigration violations since 2002.
“These thousands of cases point to an epidemic of caning in Malaysia,” said Donna Guest, the group’s deputy Asia-Pacific director.
“The Malaysian government needs to abolish this cruel and degrading punishment, no matter what the offence,” she said in a statement.
The latest caning case will fuel a debate over rising “Islamisation” in the religiously diverse nation, where authorities last year sentenced a mother-of-two to six strokes of the cane for drinking beer in a nightclub.
What about the men, asks SIS
Sisters in Islam (SIS), a Malaysian NGO, also condemned the government’s decision to cane the three Muslim women for syariah offences.
“Given that several issues on syariah and constitutional grounds, sentencing guidelines and Malaysia’s commitments to international human rights instruments that were raised on the Kartika case remain unresolved, we question the government’s motive in proceeding with the caning of Muslim women,” said its executive director Hamidah Marican in a statement.
“And to do this surreptitiously implies that the government wanted to hide this degrading and unjust treatment from public scrutiny,” she added.
She asked whether the men involved were also found guilty for illicit sex and similarly sentenced and caned.
SIS also urged the government to review caning as a form of punishment as it violates international human rights principles which regard whipping and other forms of corporal punishment as cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.
A lawless 1Malaysia
PKR leader Zaid Ibrahim has also weighed in with his criticism of the latest caning.
Taking a poke at Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak’s 1Malaysia project, the former Umno man said Malaysia had become lawless.
He also questioned the disparity which appeared between the syariah law and the federal law as a result of the caning.
“Only in lawless 1Malaysia can a state court order caning for women although federal law precludes women from such punishment,” said Zaid in his Twitter and Facebook.
Awam wants explanation
The All Women’s Action Society (Awam) also expressed its shock that the government had carried out the whipping sentence without addressing the serious issues raised by Kartika’s case.
“The Home Minister needs to explain why the government allowed the punishment to be carried out in secret on an issue that is of high public interest with very far ranging and damaging consequences,” said Awam’s president Sofia Lim in a statement today.
She said that “the expediency and the secrecy with which this matter was carried out reek of bad faith.”
Bar Council shocked
The Malaysian Bar Council has also express shocked and disappointment.
At its 61st Annual General Meeting yesterday, it unanimously adopted a resolution to denounce and reject whipping as a punishment.
“Whipping as a punishment for any offence is anachronistic and inconsistent with a compassionate society. Our position echoes international human rights norms that condemn whipping and other forms of corporal punishment as cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment,” it said in a statement.
It pointed out that corporal punishment is forbidden for women under Section 289 of the Criminal Procedure Code and said it was “indeed shocking” that the government made the announcement only after the punishment had been carried out.
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Why no caning for the lawless leaders we have. Can get away with serious crimes under the penal code. This truly reflects double standards. One set of law for Anwar, one set of law for the Pm another set of law for the lawless. World opinion is going to town with our legal system being abused.
In Iran where they abide by Islamic Laws, a Muslim who steals or robs gets his hands chopped off. Is Malaysia going to follow suit since they have now started caning the Islamic ladies in line with Islamic Laws as practiced in Iran.
If the “One” higher than us human by whatever name we call it is all compassionate and merciful should we not show mercy to our fellow human being. Surely there is a better and enlightened way to address the situation.
It is time the women in Malaysia fight for their rights, and the best way is through the ballot. Once and for all, women of Malaysia unite and vote Umno Baru out for good. If you do not know how to use this right of yours which is all so powerful now, then, you will lose everything forever. Your vote is invaluable and make sure that Umno Baru knows it, it is now or never Muslims sisters. Malaysians of all faiths will be strongly with you on this matter and if you do not stand for your rights, be prepared to be stoned to death, chopping of hands, etc. Do you want that?
Besides, how can you let a fellow human impose their views and carry out such primitive punishments on you? Have you all not sacrificed enough under the hypocrite Umno Bn? Do you mean, Umno Baru men, are all so religious and they do not flirt and screw around? You have read it all in the press, why are they not punished but instead sent to the Us? Until and unless you make a stand, you are selling away unconsciously all rights of your future generations! Malaysians of all races will be behind you in your fight for justice, and together we can bring Umno Baru down and together all the hypocrites.
Pr must come out with credible candidates to rule and govern this country well. Please minimize those coming in from Umno. Together we can make the march to Putrajaya real, very real after the next Ge. Show them your power of your vote’s fellow Muslim sisters and brother. Tell them No!
On 9 February 2010 – Malaysian authorities said Wednesday that officials caned four Muslim men and, for the first time, three Muslim women this month after being found guilty in an Islamic Court of having sex out of wedlock.
If the Lady or Man a Malay-Muslim or other Muslim and the other partner a Lady or Man a non-Malay or non-Muslim after being found guilty of having Sex out of wedlock: What would be the Punishment and which Court of law to be introduce?
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Criticism mounts over caning of Muslim women Thu, Feb 18, 2010 / Latest Update: 4.57pm / National http://freemalaysiatoday.com/english/?p=10907#comments
WASHINGTON: Amnesty International on Wednesday urged Malaysia to end a caning “epidemic,” saying that authorities have meted out the punishment to thousands of men in addition to the high-profile case of three women.
Malaysian authorities said Wednesday they had caned three women for having extramarital sex in violation of Islamic law, a first in the Muslim-majority country.
But Amnesty International said the case was the “just the tip of the iceberg” and that Malaysia often caned men for routine offences.
Citing Malaysian authorities, the London-based human rights group said authorities had caned more than 35,000 people — mostly non-Malaysians — for immigration violations since 2002.
“These thousands of cases point to an epidemic of caning in Malaysia,” said Donna Guest, the group’s deputy Asia-Pacific director.
“The Malaysian government needs to abolish this cruel and degrading punishment, no matter what the offence,” she said in a statement.
The latest caning case will fuel a debate over rising “Islamisation” in the religiously diverse nation, where authorities last year sentenced a mother-of-two to six strokes of the cane for drinking beer in a nightclub.
What about the men, asks SIS
Sisters in Islam (SIS), a Malaysian NGO, also condemned the government’s decision to cane the three Muslim women for syariah offences.
“Given that several issues on syariah and constitutional grounds, sentencing guidelines and Malaysia’s commitments to international human rights instruments that were raised on the Kartika case remain unresolved, we question the government’s motive in proceeding with the caning of Muslim women,” said its executive director Hamidah Marican in a statement.
“And to do this surreptitiously implies that the government wanted to hide this degrading and unjust treatment from public scrutiny,” she added.
She asked whether the men involved were also found guilty for illicit sex and similarly sentenced and caned.
SIS also urged the government to review caning as a form of punishment as it violates international human rights principles which regard whipping and other forms of corporal punishment as cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.
A lawless 1Malaysia
PKR leader Zaid Ibrahim has also weighed in with his criticism of the latest caning.
Taking a poke at Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak’s 1Malaysia project, the former Umno man said Malaysia had become lawless.
He also questioned the disparity which appeared between the syariah law and the federal law as a result of the caning.
“Only in lawless 1Malaysia can a state court order caning for women although federal law precludes women from such punishment,” said Zaid in his Twitter and Facebook.
Awam wants explanation
The All Women’s Action Society (Awam) also expressed its shock that the government had carried out the whipping sentence without addressing the serious issues raised by Kartika’s case.
“The Home Minister needs to explain why the government allowed the punishment to be carried out in secret on an issue that is of high public interest with very far ranging and damaging consequences,” said Awam’s president Sofia Lim in a statement today.
She said that “the expediency and the secrecy with which this matter was carried out reek of bad faith.”
Bar Council shocked
The Malaysian Bar Council has also express shocked and disappointment.
At its 61st Annual General Meeting yesterday, it unanimously adopted a resolution to denounce and reject whipping as a punishment.
“Whipping as a punishment for any offence is anachronistic and inconsistent with a compassionate society. Our position echoes international human rights norms that condemn whipping and other forms of corporal punishment as cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment,” it said in a statement.
It pointed out that corporal punishment is forbidden for women under Section 289 of the Criminal Procedure Code and said it was “indeed shocking” that the government made the announcement only after the punishment had been carried out.
Comments For This Post
Why no caning for the lawless leaders we have. Can get away with serious crimes under the penal code. This truly reflects double standards. One set of law for Anwar, one set of law for the Pm another set of law for the lawless. World opinion is going to town with our legal system being abused.
In Iran where they abide by Islamic Laws, a Muslim who steals or robs gets his hands chopped off. Is Malaysia going to follow suit since they have now started caning the Islamic ladies in line with Islamic Laws as practiced in Iran.
If the “One” higher than us human by whatever name we call it is all compassionate and merciful should we not show mercy to our fellow human being. Surely there is a better and enlightened way to address the situation.
It is time the women in Malaysia fight for their rights, and the best way is through the ballot. Once and for all, women of Malaysia unite and vote Umno Baru out for good. If you do not know how to use this right of yours which is all so powerful now, then, you will lose everything forever. Your vote is invaluable and make sure that Umno Baru knows it, it is now or never Muslims sisters. Malaysians of all faiths will be strongly with you on this matter and if you do not stand for your rights, be prepared to be stoned to death, chopping of hands, etc. Do you want that?
Besides, how can you let a fellow human impose their views and carry out such primitive punishments on you? Have you all not sacrificed enough under the hypocrite Umno Bn? Do you mean, Umno Baru men, are all so religious and they do not flirt and screw around? You have read it all in the press, why are they not punished but instead sent to the Us? Until and unless you make a stand, you are selling away unconsciously all rights of your future generations! Malaysians of all races will be behind you in your fight for justice, and together we can bring Umno Baru down and together all the hypocrites.
Pr must come out with credible candidates to rule and govern this country well. Please minimize those coming in from Umno. Together we can make the march to Putrajaya real, very real after the next Ge. Show them your power of your vote’s fellow Muslim sisters and brother. Tell them No!
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